
There are Muslims, in the United States, who actually pray Allah destroys America. I’m not sure if that is religious zeal clouding their mental faculties or downright stupidity, considering if this country is destroyed, so will they be. Then again, they believe there are virgins waiting on the other side, so perhaps they’re looking more forward to bedding down with these women than doing something productive in this world and what part of pandemic do they not understand.
If the flu spreads it’s not going to stop on the borders of Muslim-majority countries, even if they do slaughter all the pigs there, as some, like Egypt, have been considering.
It spreads person to person. They would have to ensure no-one entered their nation, to prevent the pandemic from spreading throughout their land and, it never fails to amaze me how people can wish evil for others without realizing that what you wish for, for others, could come back to bite you, big time. What goes around comes around. So, when certain Muslims at websites like revolution.thabaat.net, located in North Carolina, say the following
Anyone with eyes can clearly see that this new disease is a curse from Allah upon America. The Mujahideen and those who support them continue to ask Allah to destroy America. Allah responded. Today, they are being destroyed military, economically, and now they are being destroyed with a new disease that is spreading fast. May Allah protect the Muslims in the West from this disease and may this disease reach all the enemies of Allah so that the American Government can no longer move a finger against the Ummah!
The people of the world should start realizing that the prohibition of pork in Islam has more benefits than harm. Islam is the only way out for success in both worlds.
In addition, Americans need to start realizing that their Government is fighting Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala in this bogus ‘war on terrorism’. The lesson of the day: if you fight Allah, Allah will terminate you in both worlds.
By the way, according to al-Jazeera, this flu has also reached Israel!
I ask my Rabb to continue punishing America, her allies and Israel in ways we never expected.
it makes one wonder. How can one who claims to love Allah, spends 5 times a day bowed in prayer, dedicates oneself to their religion wish such a thing on others? Of course, when someone in the comment section asked about what happens when Muslims start getting the swine flu, the admin’s answer was... they are being tested. What supreme arrogance to think they are being tested, and the rest of us infidels, kuffars or whatever we are, are being punished.
I don’t happen to eat pork, nor any kind of meat for that matter, I also don’t drink. Will those haters, praying for the destruction of America (and all non-Muslim westerners) make an exception with me? Doubt it.
Our physical biological bodies are all the same.
If God made them - he made us too and the flu for everyone.
He'll make sure that none of the Muslims get affected with swine flu anywhere across the globe
Wait and watch :D
Just as childish as the Israelis refusing to call it ”swine” flu and choosing to call it Mexican flu. It could be dangerous muddying the waters like that. Reminds me of some more childishness after 9/11 with French Fries.
That is what happens when people remain in perpetual childhood with a deity as the parent, they never have to grow up and take responsibility for anything.
Did not the rest of the world have enough form the American ignorance.
Totally agree.
So what they expect is justified
You don't have a right to do so.
Its only extremist's ideology and not the moderates
Some of you are Extremists and the rest are silent supporter to them
Stop taking them so seriously they way you've mentioned in the concluding para, they are not worth it.
I think we have lot other important issues to concentrate rather than thinking about these close minded fools.
Be prepared for any kind of attack from their side and forget them
Like peace of mind.
Actually, their entire strategy is to get attention. The media makes money by splashing their attacks all over the place, using fear to increasing ratings. The two, terrorists and the mass media ironically have this symbiotic relationship. By ignoring them they both lose. Good.
But be prepared for any kind of attack from any side. We don’t need to be gunned down by the ”good guys” in the crossfire either.
Life is a continuing creative expression, a mystery - giving us updated evidence, knowledge, information and learning all the time to move forward.
Away from these highly evolved bronze age beliefs of our ancestors imagination, that bear no credability with the evidence we now have of the earths history, our human morality is innate and stupid priests have been attributing these human precepts to god at our own expense with, human sacrifice, brutality and elitism, usery and stupidity, they are all evolved mythologies and its about time we grew up and stopped needing dad in the sky, to solve all our problems because it creates more suffering to believe in a brutal bronze age god, that most religions do.
Lets remove the shackles of our ancestral baggage of beliefs that are of a primitive culteral standard and that bears no resemblance and no evidence to reality.
Its about time religious people started to question their own upbringing with a little bit of constructive self critisem of their absurd beliefs and be honest with themselves.
For a more humane, kinder and caring people on this planet.
Otherwise what you would say about the Israelis promised land that been an excuse to cause a suffer for more than 10 million Palestinian for more than 60 years now and it been support by the christian world...
Religion causes wars.
Ms. K. you are right on the mark, we need to take responsibility for our actions in the present, we need to hold those that do harm to others and to the planet, accountable, and not allow any religious beliefs to be justified to perform atrocities.
Nor can we sit idly by as our elected representatives ruin our economy, make war with other nations for financial gain, and suppress our liberties in the name of national security. Our nation and all the Earth would be much safer for all inhabitants if we stopped fighting with others to take away what they have because we don’t have it and need/want it.
Come from love and live in abundance, treat others like they are your family, and peace will surely be the result.
I did not meant to be sarcastic or be offensive its just my opinion and how I see the the world and the problems are caused by the fact people prefer wishful thinking desires of irrational ambitions to survive their own death, and compete with other human beings (in self centered delusion) to please a God in desperation for rewards and rank in the afterlife.
This viewpoint is the piety that the terrorists believe in such absolute faith, and they really do believe in their self sacrifice for such a noble cause in their own minds, even though, if logically challenged - their beliefs are immaturely absurd as is the tooth fairy and santa Clause.
I’m sorry but people have to begin challenging religious beliefs robustly because its been such a constant detrimental threat to humanity and any religious critisim should NOT be taboo but subject to scrutiny and analysis to keep people accountable and transparent, for the good of all.
You don’t have a right to do so.
Its only extremist’s ideology and not the moderates ”
We all have the right to question and to seek truth. Those who insist we have ”no rights” are those that wish to suppress others, restrict freedom and free thinking.
Religion requires ”faith” and beliefs that often are contrary with common sense. If that the plan of ”god” to confuse and test us? When we see for ourselves the natural order of things, should we refuse to accept what we see because a religion tells us that it is the work of evil?
I really value the American freedom, but a combination of freedom, Ignorance and power had resulted in the Iraq invasion and the death to more than a million innocent people.
Freedon in America lead the people to think that they are the best nation and that they are above the world law and that they can police the world.
Americans have lots of good things to be proud about, but as much as the bad things when we look at the negative effect they are imposing on other nations.
One of the ones I remember most vividly was sending food to starving Somalis and the reporter standing at the distribution station while all the people there complained that the food was rice and beans and milk they wanted better stuff. They were cursing the US! That is what the world is really like.
Your a victim of the media.
Me Enki,
And in what way is Nuya a victim of the media?
In other words, your always talking about two different groups. We, in our American stupidity think all Iraki’s, Somali’s, Vietnamese, etc. are the same.
As for the so-called ”hungry” Somali’s you supposedly saw complaining about American food aid, Were they really hungry Somali’s? We’re they Islamic fundamentalist’s? Was this a staged event to manipulate the viewer? I assume you speak Somali. So you know what they were saying. What if they were complaining that the food was infected with bugs? The reality is, it is very easy to present video images to present a story the way you wish. In other words, she believes every thing she she presented by the media i.e. media victim.
Fully agree with you, The US media is way biased and will never show the big picture, All of us still remember how the US media played a great role in boosting the public opinion in the US for the Iraq invasion while the rest of the world was against that war.
American in general are ignorant about the world and they only get their little knowledge form a biased and politically driven media sources.
Did you ever try to check the same headline news from another source other than FOX NEWS or CNN, did try for example the BBC or ALJAZEERA, you will see that the world is really looks different and the BAD and GOOD guys (as you American always likes to categorize people) may switch positions.
Journalism died before you were born, so all you know is edutainment and sensationalism.
I don’t watch TV and I haven’t in decades and you can keep parroting that insult that all children use...MEDIA this,media that,media media media. When you get an original thought in your head, come back and we’ll talk.
Your the poster child for the arrogant, ignorant American.
Have you read anything by Noam Chomsky?
”Everyone blames America for everything!!!! It is a no win situation. America should never set foot in any country to help with anything, because every time they do, they get nothing but complaints.”
You think this sentiment is original? How do you think we got to be a superpower and so rich? By selflessly helping everyone? If an individual selflessly helps people he ends up broke. But if a country does it they end up a rich superpower? You’re an unthinking person who’s mind has become fossilized. Hitler said repeat a lie enough times and the people will believe it. You believe everything they tell you. The second we stop ”helping” other countries we lose our ability to extract oil, raw materials, cheap labor etc. and the party will be over. It maybe happening sooner then we think.
@Peace Watcher
Thanks for the shout out. I’m surrounded by ugly Americans (Yes, I’m an American too). Actually, there are many of us who are fed up with our system.
Hey kid, I read more literature and history before my eighth birthday than you have read in your entire life!
Just like a proletarian to site Chomsky. Trailer park philosopher! Sheesh!
You live in your white bread world, smoking your pot and living in your mom’s basement, thinking that you are some sort of intellectual. You are a deluded drug addict with an inflated sense of self.
You do not have a CLUE about the world around you, leave the safety of the burbs and work as a teacher in an inner city school, volunteer to teach battered women to read, wash sheets in a homeless shelter, build a house with Habitat for humanity, work for the Red Cross and while you are at it get a couple of degrees from a university,while simultaneously having a job and raising a family, you vapid brat.
You actually made me smile. Your characterization of me is sooo wrong. But you reveal that you live in a world of stereotypes. Otherwise you wouldn’t be trying to fit me into one of your little categories.
”You do not have a CLUE about the world around you, leave the safety of the burbs and work as a teacher in an inner city school, volunteer to teach battered women to read, wash sheets in a homeless shelter, build a house with Habitat for humanity, work for the Red Cross and while you are at it get a couple of degrees from a university,while simultaneously having a job and raising a family, you vapid brat.”
You have done ALL of these things and you’re still as bitter as ever. You haven’t learned a thing on becoming the least bit happy. For everything that you’ve done I can make a prediction; things will only get worse for you and you will die as you lived, a confused and bitter old lady. You’ve selflessly done everything to help everyone and your not appreciated by anyone for your efforts. No wonder your ”damned if you do, damned if you don’t”. That’s the story of your life.
You have absolutely nothing to offer the world and you are trying to feel like a big man dishing out abuse on the internet. You have never done anything of value and you never will because you are a selfish, spoiled brat and you will always be. Get back to your pot smoking and listening to Green Day, while your mommy cleans your room.
As I said before, you are completely wrong. In fact, incorrect on every single point. Which is just an indication of how wrong you are about everything you have been writing about.
Actually, it shows how you live in a complete ”hard as nails” fantasy world. You must be very depressed. I really feel sorry for you.
Events - are being edited, twisted and changed to suit their own agenda/propaganda, so generally the masses of people only get to know what they are told to know and rarely get to see or understand the bigger picture.
Remember the good old days of honor and integrity in journalism and actual investigative reporting? We didn’t have to work so hard to stay informed.
It seems as if there is only one reporter left in the world and every outlet regurgitates his copy.
There is a newspaper in California that outsources its local articles from India!
”It seems as if there is only one reporter left in the world and every outlet regurgitates his copy. ”
No, the truth can’t be hidden, we are fortunate these days that we have tons of TV channels, newspapers and in top of it the internet. The problem with the American media and people is that they don’t do the extra step to read more about the subject or to judge the news which most of the time makes no sense.
It is simple, to judge a problem you have to hear both opinions, did you ever try to do that?
There are no Black nor White colors in this world, but all colors in between.
”That is why you have to glean your information from a (variety of sources) and sift out the sensationalism to get a closer approximation of the truth.”
what part of that was not clear?
”It seems as if there is only one reporter left in the world and every outlet regurgitates his copy. ”
I am talking about the AP copy that is used in every newspaper in the country, they don’t even bother to paraphrase in most cases. Anyone who reads more than 1 newspaper would have noticed it.
Yes, I tried that.....Thus the comments I made. Try reading before you reply next time.
I will try my best to read and consume every single word before replying.
I am really sorry if I did misunderstand you, and please take it easy.
But some of them did ride the tanks with the US army when they invaded Iraq while other got killed with shells form those tanks.
As for the pigs why take it out on these poor animal creatures.
YUSUFALI: We have created (their Companions) of special creation.
056.036
YUSUFALI: And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled)
Houris are what the special creation virgins are called. So they are recyclable.
Pigs got a bad rap from the ancient Egyptians who thought they caused leprosy.
As for the pigs in Egypt, We are back at the same idea that no media is reporting the full picture, according to my reading, The farms in Egypt has been in a long lived debate, as the pigs owners are actually the Garbage dump owners and they were feeding the pigs garbage only, so lots of concerned people - mostly Christians- are asking to get rid of it.
Egypt can’t support this kind of industry since it lack food resources for the pig or other animals.
I think I am mixed up my responses here,
Sorry for that.
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Just as childish as the Israelis refusing to call it ”swine” flu and choosing to call it Mexican flu. It could be dangerous muddying the waters like that. Reminds me of some more childishness after 9/11 with French Fries.
That is what happens when people remain in perpetual childhood with a deity as the parent, they never have to grow up and take responsibility for anything.
Ms. K. you are right on the mark, we need to take responsibility for our actions in the present, we need to hold those that do harm to others and to the planet, accountable, and not allow any religious beliefs to be justified to perform atrocities.
Nor can we sit idly by as our elected representatives ruin our economy, make war with other nations for financial gain, and suppress our liberties in the name of national security. Our nation and all the Earth would be much safer for all inhabitants if we stopped fighting with others to take away what they have because we don’t have it and need/want it.
Come from love and live in abundance, treat others like they are your family, and peace will surely be the result.
You don’t have a right to do so.
Its only extremist’s ideology and not the moderates ”
We all have the right to question and to seek truth. Those who insist we have ”no rights” are those that wish to suppress others, restrict freedom and free thinking.
Religion requires ”faith” and beliefs that often are contrary with common sense. If that the plan of ”god” to confuse and test us? When we see for ourselves the natural order of things, should we refuse to accept what we see because a religion tells us that it is the work of evil?
Like peace of mind.
Actually, their entire strategy is to get attention. The media makes money by splashing their attacks all over the place, using fear to increasing ratings. The two, terrorists and the mass media ironically have this symbiotic relationship. By ignoring them they both lose. Good.
But be prepared for any kind of attack from any side. We don’t need to be gunned down by the ”good guys” in the crossfire either.
One of the ones I remember most vividly was sending food to starving Somalis and the reporter standing at the distribution station while all the people there complained that the food was rice and beans and milk they wanted better stuff. They were cursing the US! That is what the world is really like.
Me Enki,
And in what way is Nuya a victim of the media?
In other words, your always talking about two different groups. We, in our American stupidity think all Iraki’s, Somali’s, Vietnamese, etc. are the same.
As for the so-called ”hungry” Somali’s you supposedly saw complaining about American food aid, Were they really hungry Somali’s? We’re they Islamic fundamentalist’s? Was this a staged event to manipulate the viewer? I assume you speak Somali. So you know what they were saying. What if they were complaining that the food was infected with bugs? The reality is, it is very easy to present video images to present a story the way you wish. In other words, she believes every thing she she presented by the media i.e. media victim.
Journalism died before you were born, so all you know is edutainment and sensationalism.
I don’t watch TV and I haven’t in decades and you can keep parroting that insult that all children use...MEDIA this,media that,media media media. When you get an original thought in your head, come back and we’ll talk.
Your the poster child for the arrogant, ignorant American.
Have you read anything by Noam Chomsky?
”Everyone blames America for everything!!!! It is a no win situation. America should never set foot in any country to help with anything, because every time they do, they get nothing but complaints.”
You think this sentiment is original? How do you think we got to be a superpower and so rich? By selflessly helping everyone? If an individual selflessly helps people he ends up broke. But if a country does it they end up a rich superpower? You’re an unthinking person who’s mind has become fossilized. Hitler said repeat a lie enough times and the people will believe it. You believe everything they tell you. The second we stop ”helping” other countries we lose our ability to extract oil, raw materials, cheap labor etc. and the party will be over. It maybe happening sooner then we think.
@Peace Watcher
Thanks for the shout out. I’m surrounded by ugly Americans (Yes, I’m an American too). Actually, there are many of us who are fed up with our system.
Hey kid, I read more literature and history before my eighth birthday than you have read in your entire life!
Just like a proletarian to site Chomsky. Trailer park philosopher! Sheesh!
You live in your white bread world, smoking your pot and living in your mom’s basement, thinking that you are some sort of intellectual. You are a deluded drug addict with an inflated sense of self.
You do not have a CLUE about the world around you, leave the safety of the burbs and work as a teacher in an inner city school, volunteer to teach battered women to read, wash sheets in a homeless shelter, build a house with Habitat for humanity, work for the Red Cross and while you are at it get a couple of degrees from a university,while simultaneously having a job and raising a family, you vapid brat.
Remember the good old days of honor and integrity in journalism and actual investigative reporting? We didn’t have to work so hard to stay informed.
It seems as if there is only one reporter left in the world and every outlet regurgitates his copy.
There is a newspaper in California that outsources its local articles from India!
You actually made me smile. Your characterization of me is sooo wrong. But you reveal that you live in a world of stereotypes. Otherwise you wouldn’t be trying to fit me into one of your little categories.
”You do not have a CLUE about the world around you, leave the safety of the burbs and work as a teacher in an inner city school, volunteer to teach battered women to read, wash sheets in a homeless shelter, build a house with Habitat for humanity, work for the Red Cross and while you are at it get a couple of degrees from a university,while simultaneously having a job and raising a family, you vapid brat.”
You have done ALL of these things and you’re still as bitter as ever. You haven’t learned a thing on becoming the least bit happy. For everything that you’ve done I can make a prediction; things will only get worse for you and you will die as you lived, a confused and bitter old lady. You’ve selflessly done everything to help everyone and your not appreciated by anyone for your efforts. No wonder your ”damned if you do, damned if you don’t”. That’s the story of your life.
You have absolutely nothing to offer the world and you are trying to feel like a big man dishing out abuse on the internet. You have never done anything of value and you never will because you are a selfish, spoiled brat and you will always be. Get back to your pot smoking and listening to Green Day, while your mommy cleans your room.
”That is why you have to glean your information from a (variety of sources) and sift out the sensationalism to get a closer approximation of the truth.”
what part of that was not clear?
”It seems as if there is only one reporter left in the world and every outlet regurgitates his copy. ”
I am talking about the AP copy that is used in every newspaper in the country, they don’t even bother to paraphrase in most cases. Anyone who reads more than 1 newspaper would have noticed it.
Yes, I tried that.....Thus the comments I made. Try reading before you reply next time.
YUSUFALI: We have created (their Companions) of special creation.
056.036
YUSUFALI: And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled)
Houris are what the special creation virgins are called. So they are recyclable.
Pigs got a bad rap from the ancient Egyptians who thought they caused leprosy.
As I said before, you are completely wrong. In fact, incorrect on every single point. Which is just an indication of how wrong you are about everything you have been writing about.
Actually, it shows how you live in a complete ”hard as nails” fantasy world. You must be very depressed. I really feel sorry for you.
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Our physical biological bodies are all the same.
If God made them - he made us too and the flu for everyone.
He'll make sure that none of the Muslims get affected with swine flu anywhere across the globe
Wait and watch :D
So what they expect is justified
Stop taking them so seriously they way you've mentioned in the concluding para, they are not worth it.
You don't have a right to do so.
Its only extremist's ideology and not the moderates
Life is a continuing creative expression, a mystery - giving us updated evidence, knowledge, information and learning all the time to move forward.
Away from these highly evolved bronze age beliefs of our ancestors imagination, that bear no credability with the evidence we now have of the earths history, our human morality is innate and stupid priests have been attributing these human precepts to god at our own expense with, human sacrifice, brutality and elitism, usery and stupidity, they are all evolved mythologies and its about time we grew up and stopped needing dad in the sky, to solve all our problems because it creates more suffering to believe in a brutal bronze age god, that most religions do.
Lets remove the shackles of our ancestral baggage of beliefs that are of a primitive culteral standard and that bears no resemblance and no evidence to reality.
Its about time religious people started to question their own upbringing with a little bit of constructive self critisem of their absurd beliefs and be honest with themselves.
For a more humane, kinder and caring people on this planet.
Some of you are Extremists and the rest are silent supporter to them
I think we have lot other important issues to concentrate rather than thinking about these close minded fools.
Be prepared for any kind of attack from their side and forget them
I did not meant to be sarcastic or be offensive its just my opinion and how I see the the world and the problems are caused by the fact people prefer wishful thinking desires of irrational ambitions to survive their own death, and compete with other human beings (in self centered delusion) to please a God in desperation for rewards and rank in the afterlife.
This viewpoint is the piety that the terrorists believe in such absolute faith, and they really do believe in their self sacrifice for such a noble cause in their own minds, even though, if logically challenged - their beliefs are immaturely absurd as is the tooth fairy and santa Clause.
I’m sorry but people have to begin challenging religious beliefs robustly because its been such a constant detrimental threat to humanity and any religious critisim should NOT be taboo but subject to scrutiny and analysis to keep people accountable and transparent, for the good of all.
Did not the rest of the world have enough form the American ignorance.
Otherwise what you would say about the Israelis promised land that been an excuse to cause a suffer for more than 10 million Palestinian for more than 60 years now and it been support by the christian world...
Religion causes wars.
I really value the American freedom, but a combination of freedom, Ignorance and power had resulted in the Iraq invasion and the death to more than a million innocent people.
Freedon in America lead the people to think that they are the best nation and that they are above the world law and that they can police the world.
Americans have lots of good things to be proud about, but as much as the bad things when we look at the negative effect they are imposing on other nations.
Fully agree with you, The US media is way biased and will never show the big picture, All of us still remember how the US media played a great role in boosting the public opinion in the US for the Iraq invasion while the rest of the world was against that war.
American in general are ignorant about the world and they only get their little knowledge form a biased and politically driven media sources.
Did you ever try to check the same headline news from another source other than FOX NEWS or CNN, did try for example the BBC or ALJAZEERA, you will see that the world is really looks different and the BAD and GOOD guys (as you American always likes to categorize people) may switch positions.
Events - are being edited, twisted and changed to suit their own agenda/propaganda, so generally the masses of people only get to know what they are told to know and rarely get to see or understand the bigger picture.
”It seems as if there is only one reporter left in the world and every outlet regurgitates his copy. ”
No, the truth can’t be hidden, we are fortunate these days that we have tons of TV channels, newspapers and in top of it the internet. The problem with the American media and people is that they don’t do the extra step to read more about the subject or to judge the news which most of the time makes no sense.
It is simple, to judge a problem you have to hear both opinions, did you ever try to do that?
There are no Black nor White colors in this world, but all colors in between.
But some of them did ride the tanks with the US army when they invaded Iraq while other got killed with shells form those tanks.
As for the pigs why take it out on these poor animal creatures.
As for the pigs in Egypt, We are back at the same idea that no media is reporting the full picture, according to my reading, The farms in Egypt has been in a long lived debate, as the pigs owners are actually the Garbage dump owners and they were feeding the pigs garbage only, so lots of concerned people - mostly Christians- are asking to get rid of it.
Egypt can’t support this kind of industry since it lack food resources for the pig or other animals.
I think I am mixed up my responses here,
Sorry for that.
I will try my best to read and consume every single word before replying.
I am really sorry if I did misunderstand you, and please take it easy.
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