Actually, in North Africa there are many converts to Christianity from Islam. I heard the number is some 667 people per day! Falun Gong is the fastest growing religion on earth. there aren’t a high number of converts to Islam, but Muslims grow in number through high procreation. The average number of kids they have is very high and at a very young age too. Look at any list with population growth rate, Muslim countries stand the highest.

As such all religions other than Islam are banned in Saudi Arabia where the alleged Shari’a law is in practice. Also, same is the case with Taliban rule. They blowed up Buddha statues and find it no problem when others do the same! Remember that inspiration of Taliban comes from Islam itself.

And kidnapping teenage Hindu and Sikh girls just shows their cowardice. I most probably think they are Pakistanis. They have done the same with Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan too. It’s not a joke to bring population of minorities from 20% to 2%.

And freedom of religion? What if certain XYZ religion teaches hatred towards all other religions with no logical base but mere hatred? Why ban cults then? I will come up on a post on cults and religions soon. It’s high time that some modern priest comes and proclaims a new religion of hedonism!

It seems the Muslim credo is:

We can prosletyze, other religuions can’t prosletyze Muslims.

We can demonize other religions, other religions can’t demonize Islam.

We can practice our religion anywhere we want, other religions can not practice in Islamic countries.

We can demand preferential treatment for our religion in your countries, you can’t in ours.

We can teach hatred towards your religion, your society and your culture, you can’t teach hatred towards ours.

We can destroy your institutions and overrun your countries, you can’t enter ours without permission.

The one-sidedness of Islam is there for everyone to see, but many don’t wish to see it.

The radical Islam is the result of expansionist plans of Pope and Christians. If Christians will stop the forcible conversions all over the world, the Muslims may think of the reconciliation with them.

Nuya, my credo is simply ”Live and let live”.

Be whatever you want to be, but don’t force your customs, religion, culture or values on me, just as I don’t force mine on you. If you try to take away mine, I will fight you, but I won’t force my customs, religion, culture or values on you.

That’s the difference. Deal with it.

”Perhaps, all Judeo/Christian nations should do the same thing. Threaten Muslims if they try and spread their faith in Christian lands.”

You’re right!:D That’s what they are doing now. After 9/11 your stupid x-president George Bush described the so called war on terror as another crusader . And your soldiers are spreading the Christian faith in Afghanistan and definitely in all the places they have invaded.

http://almaha.instablogs.com/entry/usa-soldiers-spreading-their-christian-faith-in-afghanistan/

You invade countries and convert people to a faith by force, lies, and words of love to blind people and make them follow your path. And oh when Muslims want you out of their countries, and stop spreading and converting the poor and hopeless to Christianity , they are evil !


I should write something on the hypocrisy of Christians but I’m too busy and I’ve got exams coming up but it was good reading this . you’re a good joke teller.

Ah! I missed the conversation guys. Sorry...but yes I'll say that there are Muslim extremists in almost all the countries who are trying to force their religion on others which is extremely unacceptable.

If they do not tolerate interference in their faith, why do they interfere in other people's affairs?

Nuya: “Israel is right and only Israel, damn the Palestinians that you stole the land from and continue to steal from. You are anything but live and let live, you are all about crushing the rights of the minority people in your country.

You have some nerve talking about others being intolerant!”

Nuya, if you can point out a single post where I have claimed that “only Israel is right”, then I dare you to show the link.

Let me ask you: what “occupation” Palestinian Arabs were protesting when they rioted and murdered Jews in 1921, again in 1929 and a third time between 1936 and 1939?

Let me ask you: what “occupation” Palestinian Arabs were protesting when they carried out terrorist operations against Israel between 1949 and 1967? The West Bank and Gaza were not occupied by Israel.

Let me ask you: how many Jewish suicide bombers have blown themselves up in public buses, shopping malls, discotheques, schawarma stands and other public places, killing scores of civilians?

Let me ask you: how many Palestinian Arabs are willing to accept two states living in peace side-by-side?

Have you ever read the PLO’s Palestinian National Charter? Have you ever read the Hamas Covenant? Have you ever read Israel’s Proclamation of Independence? Somehow, I don’t think you’ve read any of them.

Here are some links:

Palestinian National Charter (1964 version):

http://www.un.int/palestine/PLO/PNA2.html

Palestinian National Charter (1968 version):

http://electronicintifada.net/bytopic/historicaldocuments/44.shtml

(Note the differences in the two versions, particularly Article 24 of the first version, which was dropped entirely in the second version.)

Hamas Covenant (1988):

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

Israel’s Proclamation of Independence (1948):

http://www.knesset.gov.il/docs/eng/megilat_eng.htm

Yes, Israel still has a long way to go in making all the points of its proclamation reality, but nowhere in the document will you find even a hint of the “need” to destroy anyone. The same can not be said of the Palestinian documents.

Instead of spouting the buzzwords and slogans you hear in speeches and read in the media, try doing some honest homework and actually learning about the conflict, its roots and its history.

Arsalan,

Why are you trying to put yourself on the defense from my understanding of the world filled with religious extremists on either sides?

Does it pain a mind like you or anyone else to talk logic? Isn’t what i commented earlier a reality? Do you know all the things you should know about Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Budhism and other religions which fellow human beings follow the way a citizen of this global village should?

I believe you don’t need to do so because you also appear as a common madrassa student who believes what Mullah’s say is the highway and not what can be understood through dialog and discussion plus the use of intellect.

I wish one day you also start thinking from another dimension rather than the one taking us to a clash crated out of mere ignorance because people like you never give wisdom and intellect a chance to intervene.

Nuya: Exactly who do you think the Arabs stole the land from? Arabs were not indigenous to Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria or Morocco.

Arabs are indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula, not to the rest of the Middle East and North Africa.

If you want to talk about stolen lands, talk about the lands from Morocco to Iraq and Syria, where Arabs stole the land from the indigenous people.

I repeat: learn some history before you put your foot in your mouth, not after it’s already up to your knee.

Nuya: ”Well Arabs never bused in millions of Arabs into a Jewish community and then told them to get out. So, there is no comparison.”

No, Arabs attacked Israel with the declared aim of ”throwing the Jews into the sea”. You’re right, there’s no comparison: the Jews never threatened or attempted to annihilate Arabs. This seems to escape your notice.

What ”threat” were the Arab riots of 1921, 1929 and 1936-39 responding to, when Arabs ran through the streets of the Jewish quarters of Jerusalem, Hebron, Jaffa, Zefat, Haifa and other cities shoutiung ”Itbah al Yahud!”?

What kind of ”conqueror” comes to a land with farm tools and buys land from owners willing to sell? (78% of the non-state land in Ottoman Palestine was owned by absentee landlords living in Cairo, Beirut, Damascus and Constantinople.)

Influential Arabs felt that ”the jews” might be the only ones capable of resurrecting Palestine from the primitive depths it had sunk to:

Sharif Hussein, the guardian of the Islamic holy places in Arabia, said:

“The resources of the country are still virgin soil and will be developed by the Jewish immigrants. One of the most amazing things until recent times was that the “Palestinian” used to leave his country, wandering over the high seas in every direction. His native soil could not retain a hold on him, though his ancestors may have lived on it for 1000 years. At the same time we have seen the Jews from foreign countries streaming to Israel from Russia, Germany, Austria, Spain, and America. The cause of causes could not escape those who had a gift of deeper insight. They knew that the country was for its original sons (abna’ihi’lasliyin), for all their differences, a sacred and beloved Homeland. The return of these exiles (jaliya) to their Homeland will prove materially and spiritually [to be] an experimental school for their brethren who are with them in the fields, factories, trades and in all things connected with toil and labor.”

Note that he calls the Jews ”the original sons” of the land, and that this was ”the return of these exiles to their Homeland”, which could be to the benefit of all.

Remind me exactly who it was that rejected the partition plans of 1921, 1937 and 1947? Was it the Arabs or the Jews?

As I said before, LEARN SOME HISTORY. The Middle East existed before 1948.